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ナカモ
Level: 57

So I made a vocabulary schedule for Japanese Basics grammar, it created a schedule called Words for Japanese Basics and I put on to create a Kanji creating a Kanji for Japanese Basics, I finished です, made a new schedule with all terms from both called 日本語の基本:です and renamed both respectively 日本語の基本:単語 and 日本語の基本:漢字, took all terms obtained from です section to have for next section separated but out of nowhere (as I finished arranging 日本語の基本:単語) the Words for Japanese Basics renamed from 日本語の基本:単語 back to it along with default settings (I had changed quiz size and new terms per quiz settings).


I don't plan on being pampered with english-assisted learning to Japanese and want to at some point when realistically possible rely on what I already know of Japanese as base for learning more and not having to necessarily remember "ah in english is this for that japanese" for every single thing and why I started doing this to build on this habit.. however this issue seems to be getting in the way. The terms also came back (I will just single them manually later so this part isn't a big problem, but having to change settings all the time would)


TL:DR (chronologically) I put on to generate terms on the basis of learning Japanese Basics grammar schedule both for Words and Kanji from the Words, created two new manual schedules out of their terms (both as 日本語の基本:です ), changed their settings (quiz size and new terms per quiz and respectively renamed them 日本語の基本:漢字 and 日本語の基本:単語), by the time I finished editing out the terms from 日本語の基本:単語 into 日本語の基本:です , the terms from the kanji schedule 日本語の基本:です had been brought back, renamed to Kanji for Japanese Basics and changed settings were reversed back to default settings

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24 days ago
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マイコー
Level: 346

Thanks for the message, and sorry for the delayed reply!

There is a lot of information in this post, and I'm having a bit of trouble trying to parse out exactly what happened to which schedule, with which steps. no need to justify why you are doing this: we all have our own ways of learning!

If you could, please provide a simple set of numbered steps, being extremely clear with how you did each thing.

For example, in that first paragraph, you said you "finished です" - I'm not quite sure what that means (as in, I could think of a few different things that a user might do and refer to it as "finishing です".) After that, "took all terms obtained..." - not quite clear on that. Additionally, "finished editing out the terms" - there are tons of ways to adjust schedule contents, so I'd love to know exactly what happened.

I have no doubt that I'll be able to figure this out, but due to how complex and configurable renshuu is, clarity on each and every step helps me a ton in getting to a conclusion. Thank you so much in advance!

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20 days ago
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ナカモ
Level: 57

@マイコー no worries about the delay, thanks for taking your time to reply kao_guts.png i have progressed to の stage but still remember how I did so I will try paraphrasing it differently kao_yoroshiku.png, let me know if it still sounds confusing:

1. Created a word and kanji linked schedule (helper schedules) from Japanese Basics grammar schedule
2. Renamed word schedule from to 日本語の基本:単語
3. Then renamed kanji schedule from to 日本語の基本:漢字
4. Created a word schedule named 日本語の基本:です
5. I went over to 日本語の基本:単語 view terms page listing all of them and one by one I went on clicking the plus sign then adding it to 日本語の基本:です and taking it off from 日本語の基本:単語
6. I went over to 日本語の基本:です word schedule since I finished adding terms and changed quiz size and new terms per quiz and clicked to Save
7. Created a kanji schedule named 日本語の基本:です
8. I went over to 日本語の基本:漢字 (to do same process as the other) on view terms page and taking off terms after adding to 日本語の基本:です
9. Then I proceeded to do similarly to what I did before but now to the 日本語の基本:です kanji schedule, I went over to the kanji schedule settings, and also changed both quiz size and new terms per quiz and clicked to Save
10. Now, once I had clicked on Save and got sent back to the dashboard page I suddenly see the schedule 日本語の基本:漢字 got renamed back to Kanji for Japanese Basics and intrigued me if the schedule was reseted from my changes because as I said, I had taken the terms off so seeing it being renamed back and terms available again I went over to the settings and the parameters for quiz size and new terms per quiz were back to their default/previous value

Also I didn't mention but it never happened this to the linked word schedule (not even a day after), I only got terms list changed when I progressed on Japanese Basics grammar schedule and even then the name remained as the one I had changed to ( 日本語の基本:単語 ) so this only happened to the linked kanji schedule (I have been wondering if it would ever happen to the word schedule hence why I didn't mention it because I wasn't sure if it would be affected too yet)

Another thing, it's been a while since I made the の schedules and this issue never occurred, the schedule is still empty however I didn't try changing settings again to see if it goes back, I may update on this in a few days (changing again and will see if the issue repeats itself neko_laugh.png ).


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17 days ago
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マイコー
Level: 346

I actually have questions about step one, sorry! What is linked to what? That sounds like several steps wrapped into one line.

First off, did you create, as in make it from scratch, or are you adding them from the Manage your Schedules > All Schedules page?

If that's the case (All Schedules), did you make the Japanese Basics pack, and then go to the Words for Japanese Basics, tap the ..., then go to Add/make kanji helper schedule?

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13 days ago
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ナカモ
Level: 57

@マイコー t

To be more clear on step one:
1.1 Created word helper schedule from Japanese Basics (official grammar schedule as it is)
1.2 Same process but this time a kanji helper schedule

I keep referencing linked schedules because it's what stuck in my mind but apparently from where I created it's referred to as a helper schedule: I wanted to take a screenshot but I don't seem to find it anymore somehow? I added a Genki grammar schedule to see and not mess up my other schedules and I couldn't find this button for helper schedules kao_sorry.png

did you create, as in make it from scratch, or are you adding them from the Manage your Schedules > All Schedules page?

Yes, from scratch in a way, I literally just clicked on the schedule name from dashboard to be redirected to the schedule page and clicked on 'All terms' and went by each through the green plus sign, the only thing I didn't make from "scratch" was the creation of the helper schedules (the scratch made schedules were based off them but not in any way made in any other way apart from what I explicitly said) neko_what.png Let me know if you need something more to be cleared up, meanwhile I have been trying to see if I can make this happen again but so far no results kao_think.png

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9 days ago
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マイコー
Level: 346

Thanks again.

The top 4 levels of the renshuu-made grammar/vocab schedules (Japnaese Basics, Beginner Japanese, etc.) are often referred to as "linked", as they are made at the same time (from the Manage your Schedules page), and progress at the same time.

The Helper schedules, the one that you made, is one added onto an existing schedule (kanji helper added to a vocab schedule, or vocab helper added to a kanji schedule). I do see how these could be mixed up - there's a lot packed into renshuu.

I'll be honest, my brain feels like spaghetti trying to figure out all of this, especially that it's in the past. I do apologize for this, but what I'd like to do is shelve this issue for now. If it happens again, please re-report it, and now that we have a clearer set of terms for describing it, hopefully I'll be able to look into it.

Do note, though, that if the problem re-appears, it is ideal to no longer touch that schedule or any of the related ones so I can look at it. Trying to fix it often "removes" the evidence of the bug, making it quite hard to track down.

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6 days ago
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