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ブルブルクン
Level: 1388

Search for *

I expect results to be words that begin with (Is this the right syntax? Not sure if it's documented anywhere.)

#A/エーけい #B/ビーけい #@/アットけい also appear. These are not prefix matches.

Also, 窩主買い/けいずかい appears as a standalone entry. See けいずかい one seems to be a match, but this one shouldn't have matched?

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7 days ago
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ぱぶ
Level: 209

Maybe in "extended search" it is possible ? in regular search I'm not able to do that eithter.

I use other apps/sites instead : takoboto (on smarthpone) or jisho.org (web site) for text search (if I know the kanji or kana of (part of) what I search for). Takoboto allows creating personal entries and word lists (I have a list of shiatsu/acupuncture jargon, as well as specific words, I should ask Maiko-san one day if its possible to import them on renshuu); and it uses the ? and * joker for searches.

And when I'm not sure of the kanji, I use kankan.pt (that web site allows for fuzzy searches, eg 「ル」will find (among a lot others) . It is a bit too fuzzy for searching kanji alone, better to search for words. For example imagine I found an old text with and I don't know the first kanji; I can search for「 (the 「...」is to give a fuzzy image of a single kanji), and it will find it (and show it is the old kanji writing of ):

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Another nice site is kanji.club, it allows to get "families" of kanji (each kanji has links to other kanjis that use it as a component, and links to their components (that, give lists of kanji using them), the search can be done by listing the components, and it show those matching an AND combination of them, eg:

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To look for families, I go to the decomposition, and, for example, click on one of the components :

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it then opens a list of kanji having it :

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(as you can see, it isn't "complete", it lacks 㸿 ; but the only site I know that has extensive links allowing to find all those variants is the english wiktionary (for it lists

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7 days ago
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Jisho has much better wildcard characters, so I'd recommend using that instead. Example:

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( it also has *, but you can actually do *X, not just X* )


PS: Having A/エーけい, B/ビーけい, etc., show up is almost certainly a bug. Not sure what happened with けいずかい, I think it's meant to be one entry:

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( Both * and * show い / い, so there's definitely something going on with the backend )

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6 days ago
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マイコー
Level: 344

renshuu's dictionary searching does leave a bit to be desired. This is not meant to be an excuse, just an explanation: renshuu's dictionary search is one part of a system with 100 pieces in it, so I do have as much time to dig into optimizing/fixing the search as I'd like.

I've been digging into this a bit. I think I could possibly get this all working. Let me ask you this: from your experience, is it purely additional entries that don't belong, or are you finding ones missing?

If it's just "too many", then instead of trying to rebuild the search system, I could apply an additional layer of filtering after the initial results.

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4 days ago
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ブルブルクン
Level: 1388

Just words that do not belong.

Could you answer the question of what syntax is accepted by the search? Is it documented somewhere?

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4 days ago
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マイコー
Level: 344
Updates:

Those extra entries (for this query, at least) should not appear.
Also, any number of ? should work AFTER the query. (? or ??, etc.)

* and ? before the character is still a bit wonky.
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4 days ago
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マイコー
Level: 344

Hot diggity - front markers (? and *) should be much better.

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3 days ago
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