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Hi everyone,
I’ve noticed a recurring issue with one of the male voice options on the app. It seems to mispronounce certain words—for example, "sugoi" sounds more like "sunoi" to my ears. I've also noticed other discrepancies with this specific voice where the reading doesn't seem to match the written text.
Could this be a technical bug, or is there an audio setting I might have configured incorrectly? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
No, this is how a native speaker, at least this one, actually pronounces the words. All the audio on renshuu uses native speakers, so there is no generated speech. The only technical issues that you might encounter is the wrong audio file getting played.
Thank you for the perspective. However, as this is a learning tool, accuracy and clarity are essential for building a solid foundation. Given that, could a staff member please confirm if this specific audio file is intended to be representative?
I unfortunately do not have the chance to get into a ton of specifics, but there are certain types of ...not sure what to call it, but effects such as 鼻濁音(びだくおん) and 無声化(むせいか) that, yes, are natural and do happen. I did a good bit of looking into this, including talking with other native speakers who verified it. You can even hear this in some of the recordings of the definitive NHK Accent Dictionary (pricey, but quite nice - you can get it on iOS). They are neither less accurate nor less clear.
After a good bit of thought on the issue, and aiming for multiple voices on each audio file, I think it is far beneficial to have these variations in the audio so you can see how other native speakers (this is not some kind of regional dialect) can potentially say them.
Thank you very much for the detailed explanation and for clearing that up! I wasn't fully aware of these phenomena (bidakuon and museika), but now that I know they are natural and standard, I'll listen for them more carefully to improve my comprehension. It's a great starting point for further study.
I'm going to level with you - I have been studying Japanese for a LONG time, and it was a big learning experience for me as well. It just goes to show that (for me) being locked in a specific region with specific people you hear all the time can suck out the variation in the language.
A friend of mine once complained that “all Japanese men speak with marbles in their mouth.” (I thought it was a reference to Cato and was extremely confused.) She was exaggerating, but there’s some truth to that.