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マイコー
Level: 298

Just to be safe, I'm going to say that this implementation is currently BROKEN. By that, I mean that I have not integrated everything in yet, so while I am seeing positive results in many areas, some areas simply haven't been done, especially surrounding quiz generation for schedules, and schedule summary numbers.

However, you are free to turn it on so you can start marking up the words you'd like to use this feature with. You can turn the setting off at any time, and it will still hold onto the terms you marked up.


What is it? It's a way to mark specific terms and say "I want the kanji to appear for this term" - this will override the global setting currently available. So, if this is turned on, no rare kanji will appear unless they've been toggled.

It should appear in the ... menu like this:

To do:

1. Add other ways to quickly mark up terms (Advanced Search).

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6 days ago
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マイコー
Level: 298

I am ready for testing!

When reporting issues, it is not required, but *extremely helpful* if you create small schedules with a limited number of terms (perhaps just terms with this marker attached). The bigger the schedules, the harder it will be to debug it.

When reporting a bug, please let me know exactly where you are looking at the term: whether it's in a sentence, schedule, community list, etc. Screenshots are very welcome.

Also, if it's a kanji visibility issue (for example, the kanji are showing for a term you marked, but they appear to be unknown despite you having learned them), please confirm which kanji you have the issue with.


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5 days ago
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I am a little confused as to how to get this feature to work. Does the kanji for a word I am studying (for instance /うさぎ) need to be tagged as "known" for it to show up on a word schedule? I can't get any rarely written kanji for some animals I added to a list (rabbit, alligator, octopus, hawk) to show up in the schedule.

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Thanks in advance.

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4 days ago
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Level: 298

First off, for anyone reading this post, if you have an issue, first try turning the feature off and on again - I added a bit of code that was missing.

Now, to your question: Once the setting it on in experimental, you can make it possible to learn the rare kanji readings for any words by tapping the ... for the word, then marking the checkbox in there.

However, all that does is say "there is kanji for this word, treat it like all other words with kanji."

It then will follow your renshuu settings (specifically, the ones under the Vocabulary category) as to whether or not the kanji is shown/studied. You'll want to check the last two settings below. Unless you are using the last option (show all kanji, even if unknown), the kanji will typically only appear if you are having it show furigana, or if you have learned it on renshuu (either by studying the kanji, or marking it with the lightbulb).


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4 days ago
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I believe I have all the settings you mentioned on (as well as turned off and back on the experimental setting), and I still can't get kanji to show up in vocab schedules. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong but I can't figure out what.

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マイコー
Level: 298

An embarrassing mistake, but it should be fixed :)

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ヘックス
Level: 368

Are the masteries supposed to reset for words I marked for studying rare kanji? For most of them it did, but not all of them appeared in my reviews today, despite being at 0 mastery. You can check my "Rare Kanji" word schedule for these.

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ヘックス は 0530, 7:56に

Are the masteries supposed to reset for words I marked for studying rare kanji? For most of them it did, but not all of them appeared in my reviews today, despite being at 0 mastery. You can check my "Rare Kanji" word schedule for these.

I think this is caused by a word having a kanji you know — which was previously not displayed in vocab — now being in kanji>kana. For instance おばけ -> おけ. You had high mastery in kana (おばけ) levels before, but now that you have the "kanji version" (おけ) of the word you're swapped to kanji mastery levels, which start at 0 since you haven't studied it before.

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compmyon
Level: 1083

Bug report:

If you get a quiz question wrong with one of these toggled terms, it skips the question at the end, saying that you've hidden the kanji, etc.

It also makes the schedule show the wrong number of terms to study, though clicking on the number only shows those terms you got wrong.

See my "Miscellaneous " schedule.

Thanks!


Also:

Toggling these terms don't seem to bring them up to review. I had to manually add a list with them into a schedule for them to show up-- despite most of them already being in that schedule.

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Level: 298
ヘックス は 0530, 7:56に

Are the masteries supposed to reset for words I marked for studying rare kanji? For most of them it did, but not all of them appeared in my reviews today, despite being at 0 mastery. You can check my "Rare Kanji" word schedule for these.

I think this is caused by a word having a kanji you know — which was previously not displayed in vocab — now being in kanji>kana. For instance おばけ -> おけ. You had high mastery in kana (おばけ) levels before, but now that you have the "kanji version" (おけ) of the word you're swapped to kanji mastery levels, which start at 0 since you haven't studied it before.

This is corrrect. Most people will have these vectors turned on in their schedules

Japanese -> Meaning, Meaning -> Japanese

"Japanese" means kana OR kanji, not both. So if you only had kana vectors being studied, then you got some kanji attached to that term, it would cease to use and calculate the kana vectors, and only do the kanji ones. Those vectors are still in there, they're just not part of the mastery level calculation for the term in the schedule.



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21 hours ago
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compmyon
Level: 1083

Similar issue as the other one:

  • Toggled a term that's already in the (no other reviews) schedule (specifically was ).
  • Numbers don't update (as reported), but I can force refresh the schedule with the add/remove material trick (go into that page and exit without doing anything).
  • Review the schedule.
  • Schedule still says 1 to review afterwards.
  • Can get rid of that by clicking review and it noticing and refreshing the schedule.

Thanks!

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I've had the same problem as compmyon. Received this error message from a schedule with rare kanji in it that displayed as having 1 term left to study:

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